Mag ik:
(3 votes)
Denn is de maakt wurrn:
1996
Wo de her kummt:
- Suriname
Materiaal:
- Ut Papier
Farv:
- Witt, Geel, Blau
Förm:
- Oval: Liek ut mit Kurven
Breed:
28
Hoog:
20
Dat Thema:
- Trademark & Logo
Het wat opdruckt:
Fyffes Suriname
Steiht in den Kataloog:
- F›Fyffes›Fyffes: Blue Label, Classic›Fyffes: Semicircle & Country Name
Post date:
Jul 2014
Last modified:
Sep 2019
Comments
Let's continue the discussion
Let's continue the discussion about ArmEc at this label.
FYFFES is an Irish company that belongs to SUNITOMO located in Japan. The banana is from Suriname and lets assume the label is found in Germany and Netherland (target marked). It is most likely that the label is also produced in Suriname but in this example let us say, it is printed in Brasil and delivered to a banana farm in Suriname.
What do we document at the banana label and what do we like to document at the brand / catalog entry? Ireland, Japan, Suriname, Germany + Netherland or Brasil? All of it or a subset?
So far we document Suriname as the country of origin at this banana label and optionally add a description about the company Fyffes at the catalog entry. Following this logic we put Ecuador to the ArmEc label mentioned below and describe in the catalog entry the brand as an Armenian company.
Is everybody happy with this solution?
Clear as a bell.
Clear as a bell.
This very transparent case.
This is a very transparent case.
On this label is the brand "Fyffes" which belongs to the Irish company. It is absolutely not important for the collector of labels who and how owns this company and who, how and where printed this stickers. The company "Fyffes" sells bananas produced in "Suriname" under its own brand through its international marketing network (for example, in Germany or in the Netherlands).
The label and brand belong to the company "Fyffes", the country: Ireland.
Similarly, the brand "ArmEc" belongs to the company "ArmEc", the country: Armenia and, finally,
brand "ARTES" and appropriate stickers belong to the company "SPC, SoyuzProdContract", country: Russia
Yes, Leonid. That's the point
Yes, Leonid. That's the point. So you agree to assign the label to the country where the banana is from and do a second different classification of the brand (company) ?
And - BTW - I really like this discussions. I'd wish more collectors questioning the catalog. Thank you very much!
Michael, you write:
Michael, you write:
"So you agree to assign the label to the country where the banana is from and do the second distinction of the brand (company)"
It is a mistake to assign the label to the country where the banana is from
On my opinion it'll be better if in catalog will be following classifications:
"Brand: "
"Company - brand owner: "
"Country of company location: "
"Company web-resources: "
"Country of banana origin: "
In this case description of stickers will be exact and complete enough, on my opinion.
I understand your point very
I understand your point very well and we should probably spend more work in gathering information about companies and their brands. I add a forum entry to continue it (because the discussion is not related to the FYFFES label). Before we find a technical solution I would like to know what exactly we (you) like to build up.
Dear Michael,
Dear Michael,
There is no need to reformat and correct old entries in the catalog, to collect and enter additional information about the brands, companies and countries of location of these companies.
A possible technical solution may be to add (if possible) new fields to the description of each entry in the "catalog". I already wrote above what fields could it be.
Let them be empty. Over time, they will gradually fill up. For some companies it is already possible to discuss and use available information to fill in and it will be possible to check how it might look and how it will work